Preach on brother salz. You could prb bring up even more stories of your member's shadowbane beta event's. Me being a member of DAOC will give my peace. I loved the shadowbane concept. I beta tested it started a third guild Salvation to and althou my city was destroyed and wrote about in the beta journal's it was one of the highlights of what the game was meant to be. Alot of game's promise so much and then fail. Freemiums just dont pan out. SUB with a cosmetic cash shop no items no boosts in cash shop. Real pvp with balanced classes not 1 class to rule them all. And player driven economy. Give your players this and we shall stay.