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r7 Satyr Knight Raidboss is not doing any damage with autoattacks, abilities and even his severe bleed.

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I agree with Makuza. Without the wood elf dodge brigand dies...a lot. Trying to take survivability over mobility on a brigand is a death sentence. You are not meant to survive, only kill as fast as possible in hopes that they die faster than you do . Ive tried Minotaur brigand and it pales in comparison to wood elves.

I respectfully disagree, well confessors fall damage is OP...but once that's fixed

I said compared to other tanks...Knights still out survive DPS classes. Which i would say makes them tanks. All classes shouldn't be the same at everything.

Knights do the most damage of pitfighters, tank myrmidons, and tank templars imo.... titan myrms survivability will drop drastically when i-frames are removed. And you must remember the utility of removing dodge pips on the kill target. Currently the only thing knights lack is survivability compared to other tank classes. They make up for that by providing significant CC as much or as little as you want to put on your bar, unblockable 30m chainpull, removing peoples ability to escape with dodges, and providing MORE damage than other tank specs. On secutor knight my combos can look something like this. Chainpull (500)-->shield bash to remove pips (400)->shieldswipe/stun (500/500)-> shieldbash crit (1500)->shield glare combo (400/500) -> shield bash (1500) then lmb 3x ->shield bash...constantly removing dodge pips, stun, blind, etc... people go down pretty fast.

Knights kit is great for group fighting and I think its in a very strong place. But yes in 1v1 you need to have a gear advantage to win usually. This is why I've stated knights should never be thought of as solo playable.

As in if the knight is not in top of the line gear ( over 1.5k bonus hp on each piece of plate and a weapon with top end damage over 160) it struggles to last when focused and certainly doesn't win out 1v1s. After acquiring top of the line gear I am now at least able to contend with other classes and out damage pitfighter healing. I could not do that before. I am playing secutor though, not sure how swordsman would hold up yet.

Considering no other class can chain pull or steal dodge pips (Myrms net pull is way too finnicky atm to be useful) I would say its pretty class defining. Also Knights out damage pitfighters if you know what you are doing. Managed to kill 2 today in single combat...very gear dependent though. Titan myrm still out damage knights but that's not a tank spec and with 5.8.1 they will crash more often and wont be as survivable due to removal of I-frames. There will always be classes that are better at certain things and right now knights aren't the best for tanking but we are very useful in other ways as I've stated previously.

Im sorry Arkade but the current state of Knight in 5.8 is not to be a meat shield. Pitfighters fill that role. You can take a lot of damage as a knight with a healer supporting you but you aren't the best to completely frontline. Blocking helps keep you alive but does nothing for your teammates. You call chainpulling and dodge pip stealing a gimmick but it is the unique thing knights bring to the table and is the main reason to bring knights.

Here is my 2 cents on knights in 5.8 and I will reiterate some of what I said in the role of a knight thread. Swordmaster- DPS spec a bit too dependent on RNG to get Mighty Surge to proc. When its up you just stop what you are doing and LMB until it runs out. Plays most like knights from previous builds. If you get lucky with Mighty Surge this spec could possibly be highest damage possible with relative ease. Pros- Good Damage, Best Mobility (6 second pursuit CD), Performs Knights role to chainpull and steal dodge pips. Cons- Requires Mo Swords and/or Blademaster with many skills on your bar to give you the best chance of procing Mighty Surge. Not very tanky. Secutor- Tank Spec relying on shield bash (dodge pip destroyer) as major source of damage. Plays very differently from Swordmaster knight in that all of your ability rotations involve alternating shield bash with another shield ability within 5 seconds. If you are unable to shield bash within 5 seconds of each other your damage will become negligible. Pros- 1.5k extra HP. Excellent damage (possibly highest). Able to best perform knights role of dodge pip steal and chainpull as your shield abilities reset shield bash. Can block longer after noble blood. Cons- Must take Mo Shields and/or Shield fighter to give you shield abilities to rotate with. Not very mobile (pursuit 24 second cooldown). Very combo reliant for damage. Sentinel- CC Spec that grants extra base kit CC and energy renewal on CC. Plays similar to old knight including the damage of a wet noodle. This spec is only decent in huge fights where you can make most of the aoe root shout and your personal damage really doesn't matter. Pros- Can chain more CC with energy regen on CC. AoE Root (which is the hardest thing to break out of due to the fact that not retaliating immediately usually means you wont be able to retaliate at all as the option goes away once you do anything else). Can perform the knights role of chainpull and dodge pip steal. Cons- Damage is negligible like old knight. Not very tanky. As I said in the other thread the Knights only role is to chainpull and steal dodge pips. No other class can do this and this is what knight brings to the table. All three specs can perform this but Secutor is probably the best unless you are fighting in huge 40v40s where the CC knight doesn't need to do any damage. Knights are no longer able to solo. At all. Period. Don't even think of knight in terms of 1v1 anymore. Its simply not worth it. You require a healer and with one you can be a right terror. Knights are one of the most diverse classes in build possibilities and can help in any group playing another minor role whatever your play style or the group requires. Knights are play makers and team players. They are very important to group compositions and even just one knight can make a huge difference in locking down a slippery target. This will be even more apparent with the removal of I-frames allowing knights to shield bash and steal pips regardless of ultimate's being used. There are many ways to play a knight, just don't do it alone

Knights role is to chainpull and steal dodge pips. Base kit. All Specs. Using your two major slots you can take on another minor role such as support either offensive (troubador damage increase aoe) or defensive (standard bearer, field surgeon, rune caster etc). You could also try for more dps with damage discs but youll never do as much damage as a dps class and the only spec that can take defensive discs and do damage would be secutor. Knights are only for group play with a healer supporting you. If thats not the case you will become frustrated.

With the new sanctioned campaign coming up soon anyone interested in joining The Eternal Kingdom of Cremillia can message me on Discord and I will be happy to chat with ye!

I feel like some playerbase could be drummed up to play in this. 5.8 has a large influx of players new and old who seem more keen on fighting and participating than 5.7. I'm in support of this