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Glowyrm

Slow, uncoordinated old man concerned about the combat!

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Hello,

 

I'm considering backing Crowfall and/or Camelot unchained.  I'm just so sick of PvE quest hub grinds.  However, I'm concerned about my ability to participate in PvP combat.  Basically, I'm old, slow and uncoordinated.  I read in the FAQ that while Crowfall wants to avoid being too twitchy or have too much button mashing, it still plans to have movement-based combat with combo systems.

 

Bottom line, will there be a place for me in Crowfall PvP?  I know that in Camelot Unchained, I can at least contribute to my realm as a pure crafter.

 

Thanks!

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Crafting will be a big part of crowfall too... and I wouldn't be surprised if they had some archetypes that required less twitch skill than others... how much twitch will be the minimum requirement remains to be seen, but you can bet with action combat you are going to have to be very actively engaged in moving your character around and using abilities quickly and efficiently. 

 

Hell some of the most powerful people in a game like crowfall may never even have to personally lift a finger in combat.

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Pure crafters will be highly valuable in crowfall as well as other options that might not've been unveiled yet. We still don't know the full extent of the disciplines they have planned. But even in the largest battles support and specialist archetypes will be invaluable so you don't have to play up front and center to be a key component in combat.

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Hello,

 

I'm considering backing Crowfall and/or Camelot unchained.  I'm just so sick of PvE quest hub grinds.  However, I'm concerned about my ability to participate in PvP combat.  Basically, I'm old, slow and uncoordinated.  I read in the FAQ that while Crowfall wants to avoid being too twitchy or have too much button mashing, it still plans to have movement-based combat with combo systems.

 

Bottom line, will there be a place for me in Crowfall PvP?  I know that in Camelot Unchained, I can at least contribute to my realm as a pure crafter.

 

Thanks!

If you want an idea of what they're trying to aim for, try Tera.  It'll be the most comparable system available.  High end PVP, especially due to attack speed stats, is fairly fast paced.  Not sure how long you'd care to give it (leveling is much faster now, but they managed to make it even easier as well) but it should give you a good framework to gauge from.

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Hey man, i get the concern. I am not very old or uncoordinated (I think haha) but I also have concerns since I live in Brazil, and 150ms is the minimum latency I always get on good days, 200ms is the norm for most days. I am worried about aiming and general range when in melee, I play WoW and I have problems sometimes where I am ON TOP of people and I get "out of range"messages for melee attacks. On my screen things are almost half a second delayed, and in Crowfall this will likely create a skill cap for me.

 

I am confident that they will design a combat system where we can still find a role even if those problems happen, supporting the people who don't have them in a meaningful way. Honestly, crafting in Crowfall might be as important or more important than in CU, but we don't know it yet, so no claims can be made. At this point I advise you to do as I do, follow the game, do your best to test it, to give it a solid go. If it works, awesome, if it doesn`t it won't be for lack of trying.


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Dedicated crofters will be highly valued by all guilds most likely. And I would be very surprised if there is not a few archetypes that can perform very well even with poor twitch, if at least you got a tactical mind. I wouldn't worry too much about this game not having a place for the less twitch inclined people, most things point to the opposite.

Dedicated crofters will be highly valued by all guilds most likely. And I would be very surprised if there is not a few archetypes that can perform very well even with poor twitch, if at least you got a tactical mind. I wouldn't worry too much about this game not having a place for the less twitch inclined people, most things point to the opposite.


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Why would you say that? I'm being honest about myself here and my concerns for a game I'm considering spending cash on. You think I paid enough money already to get on the forums to troll someone?

 

Thanks to everyone else for the responses.

Because my troll radar radar is going ding ding ding m***********.

 

No, in my learned opinion you are trying to make and oblique point by pretending to support an idea that you actually despise. The problem from my perspective is that you've used an absurdity as the foundation for the argument you truly oppose. You have implied that the basis for your support for the idea that you did not in fact support is a shortcoming of your own. Multiple shortcomings of your own actually. It also was relevant to my opinion is that this was your very first post on this brand new account.

 

If my assumption that you are indeed nothing more than a clever troll happens to land on soft ground, then I apologize profusely for my terrible lack of couth.

 

That doesn't change the fact that I find the necessary implication of your thread to be nonsensical to the point of absurdity. The premise that old slow and uncoordinated players are the primary or even a significant motivation behind a more tactical combat system requiring exposure to greater risk in order to get off that powerful chain or combo just isn't true. I'm still fairly good at shooters and I see the merit in such a system, depending on how it's balanced.

 

I guess the best way to sum it up its just to tell you that I don't believe you. I frankly think you're full of s***.

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I think as long as you can still think tactically, and have good movement and positioning, you can be alright.  I'm at the age now where I'm markedly seeing a decline in my reflexes.  I remember feeling like a damn jet pilot doing lines in my youth, headshotting clowns left and right, but now I'm old and slow.  Just gotta transition from being a good grunt to a good commander.


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Why would you say that? I'm being honest about myself here and my concerns for a game I'm considering spending cash on. You think I paid enough money already to get on the forums to troll someone?

 

Thanks to everyone else for the responses.

Ignore the chauvinistic anxiety. He's just attacking anything that disagrees with his specific interest for the game.

 

They really haven't defined exactly how the game will play, they have suggested that the game is aimed toward a middle aged audience, with less twitch and spamming, and also that the game would be strategic, so it should be accessible to average players. Don't let the competitive elitists convince you that the game is some keyboard jujitsu Mecha just because that's what they are lobbying for it to be.

 

You may want to seek a more study or supportive role in combat if your not confident in your playing ability, but they haven't really identified the gameplay thoroughly yet, so you can watch some of the recent gameplay experiments and compare them with the intended outcome to get a general idea of the gameplay.


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Ignore the chauvinistic anxiety. He's just attacking anything that disagrees with his specific interest for the game.

 

They really haven't defined exactly how the game will play, they have suggested that the game is aimed toward a middle aged audience, with less twitch and spamming, and also that the game would be strategic, so it should be accessible to average players. Don't let the competitive elitists convince you that the game is some keyboard jujitsu Mecha just because that's what they are lobbying for it to be.

 

You may want to seek a more study or supportive role in combat if your not confident in your playing ability, but they haven't really identified the gameplay thoroughly yet, so you can watch some of the recent gameplay experiments and compare them with the intended outcome to get a general idea of the gameplay.

Given your potential disagreement with my specific interest for the game, I feel the need to attack you.

 

Consider yourself attacked.

 

But ya, the guy is still full of poorly made socks. I know a troll when I see one brother.

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I'm...not trying to make any kind of deep, philosophical argument here, coolwaters.  I am a potential player with a real concern who paid money to be able have a discussion of my options on the official forum.  You come into my thread having nothing to say about my questions, saying I'm full of sh!t.  Good lord man, how cynical are you?  And who, exactly, is the troll between the two of us?  What do you think my ulterior motive is?

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I'm...not trying to make any kind of deep, philosophical argument here, coolwaters. I am a potential player with a real concern who paid money to be able have a discussion of my options on the official forum. You come into my thread having nothing to say about my questions, saying I'm full of poorly made socks. Good lord man, how cynical are you? And who, exactly, is the troll between the two of us? What do you think my ulterior motive is?

Lol, don't even read his drivel, he might accidentally think his opinion matters.

 

And they said there wasn't fire hose healing, that just means that support roles will be using a greater variety of defensive actions rather than simply refilling health.

 

Perhaps support will operate more like MOBA supports.


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OK, thanks again.  I haven't played any of the MOBAs, so I'm not familiar with how they handle support.

 

As far as the combo system goes, is there much known about that?  Are combos based on a set rotation, or are they queued by random procs, or reactive somehow?

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