Sugoi Group Fights (post lag fix patch)

[Rikutatis 1,637]

Just a small selection of our favorite videos from the last testing phase ^^

Lag is much better now, it was certainly a boon for group pvp. I think the largest fight we had was about 25 players on screen, and it was quite playable.

Sadly no ranger POV. We had a few rangers in guild this weekend, but none of them were recording. They all claim ranger has been better since lag diminished though.  

Gfs, everyone!

1) 3v5, 5v4, 5v5 vs uXa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeSyI4gMwU0&feature=youtu.be

2) 9v8 vs W: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7MZTvtRGZk

3) 5v5, 7v7 vs Avari/LOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdU37UEsMkE

4) Zybak's templar video shows a nice frontline POV from a keep fight + some small scale, for those who didn't watch it yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbH6wR3tgEY

Edited March 1, 2017 by Rikutatis

[dolmar 825]

While I respect you as a guild I do wish you would quit playing Merc math and try to get the numbers correct  that are obviously wrong even in your own videos my friend.

[Destrin 3,081]

12 minutes ago, dolmar said:

While I respect you as a guild I do wish you would quit playing Merc math and try to get the numbers correct  that are obviously wrong even in your own videos my friend.

Riku has trouble counting.  I will spank him thrice this evening and make him count those!

[Jjohnsin 437]

Great fights last weekend! Really enjoyed it and the lag did make this much more playable. Especially in some of the larger fights...excited to participate in some more this weekend! 

[Rikutatis 1,637]

4 hours ago, dolmar said:

While I respect you as a guild I do wish you would quit playing Merc math and try to get the numbers correct  that are obviously wrong even in your own videos my friend.

LOL there's no wrong numbers or merc math. There's just 1 fight missing from the clip without numbers (4 fights total) because there were other people around that temple when the fight broke out and I had no clue who all was there. But whatever, I still enjoyed all that back and forth that morning. Hard to find GvGs that early in the AM. 

[dolmar 825]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/.eJwNx0EOgjAQAMC_cPBGu9vtblsS4kXfQUopEmMKkWpIjH_Xuc2neT0fTdcstW57p_We1lJzqW2sD2pRHYeaxzQVVXLVb11RQRs0SgjOWT-gEUKEfxDEORhsMA4EPJMlw2w94VDUfbud16XPZEUSTMTC7F3ykTDMHGUcIxC705p7DsZe6CrN9wfNXSrr.Nkx5GxvDu52tgwUDngYBxfFWfsE?width=521&height=468=5924D3E6

Seems you did out number us attempted to tell people to hang back but they did not listen and engaged. Riku no need to tell stories bud just keep it str8.

Edited March 2, 2017 by dolmar

[VIKINGNAIL 5,680]

6 hours ago, dolmar said:

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/.eJwNx0EOgjAQAMC_cPBGu9vtblsS4kXfQUopEmMKkWpIjH_Xuc2neT0fTdcstW57p_We1lJzqW2sD2pRHYeaxzQVVXLVb11RQRs0SgjOWT-gEUKEfxDEORhsMA4EPJMlw2w94VDUfbud16XPZEUSTMTC7F3ykTDMHGUcIxC705p7DsZe6CrN9wfNXSrr.Nkx5GxvDu52tgwUDngYBxfFWfsE?width=521&height=468=5924D3E6

Seems you did out number us attempted to tell people to hang back but they did not listen and engaged. Riku no need to tell stories bud just keep it str8.

Seems like just a bit of a mixup, but yea if they know people didn't hang back when they were supposed to it is disingenuous to present the numbers as something different.

I think the bigger thing that sticks out is that people are told to hang back and they don't because they are "bloodthirsty".  I am not quite sure what to make of the lack of control displayed in that kind of scenario.

[Destrin 3,081]

9 hours ago, dolmar said:

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/.eJwNx0EOgjAQAMC_cPBGu9vtblsS4kXfQUopEmMKkWpIjH_Xuc2neT0fTdcstW57p_We1lJzqW2sD2pRHYeaxzQVVXLVb11RQRs0SgjOWT-gEUKEfxDEORhsMA4EPJMlw2w94VDUfbud16XPZEUSTMTC7F3ykTDMHGUcIxC705p7DsZe6CrN9wfNXSrr.Nkx5GxvDu52tgwUDngYBxfFWfsE?width=521&height=468=5924D3E6

Seems you did out number us attempted to tell people to hang back but they did not listen and engaged. Riku no need to tell stories bud just keep it str8.

They did hang back... just not as far as I would have liked.  You even say in this picture you charged the back line, meaning the other group, so a few of them swung back.  And as Riku said, there are four fights in that video, and only three of those fights numbers listed in the OP.  I would have to watch to count who was swinging and I think only two of our guys from the other group took a swing or two, but i am far to lazy.  So why don't we just say that first video should be titled "3v5, 4v5, 10v5, and 5v5 vs uXa" and stop the semantics?

I gave Riku a thorough spanking last night... but he liked it far too much and I will have to find some other way to let him know he was a bad boy.

[Jjohnsin 437]

1 hour ago, destrin said:

I gave Riku a thorough spanking last night... but he liked it far too much and I will have to find some other way to let him know he was a bad boy.

Can confirm both Destrin gave spankings and Riku liked it. That is all

[Rikutatis 1,637]

On 02/03/2017 at 1:03 AM, dolmar said:

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/.eJwNx0EOgjAQAMC_cPBGu9vtblsS4kXfQUopEmMKkWpIjH_Xuc2neT0fTdcstW57p_We1lJzqW2sD2pRHYeaxzQVVXLVb11RQRs0SgjOWT-gEUKEfxDEORhsMA4EPJMlw2w94VDUfbud16XPZEUSTMTC7F3ykTDMHGUcIxC705p7DsZe6CrN9wfNXSrr.Nkx5GxvDu52tgwUDngYBxfFWfsE?width=521&height=468=5924D3E6

Seems you did out number us attempted to tell people to hang back but they did not listen and engaged. Riku no need to tell stories bud just keep it str8.

LOL, what story dude? You cry too much. That's exactly as I told you above, I left that one fight out because I didn't know who got involved in that temple fight.

Also spankings only encourage me, try a different punishment next time Destrin  ^^

[Ginko 324]

I see people instantly die then I realize it's just Destrin's absolution crits.

[Destrin 3,081]

33 minutes ago, Ginko said:

I see people instantly die then I realize it's just Destrin's absolution crits.

I can't take all the credit for the instagibs... I am only in 3 of the 7 engagements (excluding all the stuff in Zybak's vid) in the OP on my fessor.

[Jah 8,372]

1 hour ago, destrin said:

OP on my fessor.

Agreed.

[makkon 1,343]

crit chance should be removed from absolution and instead goes to the 3-th skill (+20% crit chance)

[Destrin 3,081]

13 minutes ago, makkon said:

crit chance should be removed from absolution and instead goes to the 3-th skill (+20% crit chance)

Crit chance in general needs to be toned down.  There is no reason why my fessor should have 35% crit chance right now.  Chance and Crit Dmg need to be toned way down across all ATs IMO.  Once they fix the outrageous skill bug that fessors have it won't be too bad IMO.  Fessors in general need to be toned down.

I don't think crit chance should be removed from the absolution, just the bugs in the skill tree that are giving the fessor double stats should be fixed, and the amount of crit chance and crit damage you can get for ALL ARCHETYPES.

 

 

[makkon 1,343]

6 minutes ago, destrin said:

Crit chance in general needs to be toned down.  There is no reason why my fessor should have 35% crit chance right now.  Chance and Crit Dmg need to be toned way down across all ATs IMO.  Once they fix the outrageous skill bug that fessors have it won't be too bad IMO.  Fessors in general need to be toned down.

I don't think crit chance should be removed from the absolution, just the bugs in the skill tree that are giving the fessor double stats should be fixed, and the amount of crit chance and crit damage you can get for ALL ARCHETYPES.

 

 

if you talking about +10% crit chance on confessor tree from 1 passive - yes.

but overall not crit chance but crit damage + armor should be worth + some stats which decrease incoming crit chance/damage on armor + HP boost on all AT (step by step to prevent zerging more coz if they increase HP x2 so small group never kill bigger groups)

[Destrin 3,081]

2 hours ago, makkon said:

if you talking about +10% crit chance on confessor tree from 1 passive - yes.

but overall not crit chance but crit damage + armor should be worth + some stats which decrease incoming crit chance/damage on armor + HP boost on all AT (step by step to prevent zerging more coz if they increase HP x2 so small group never kill bigger groups)

What I am saying is that I would prefer that crit chance is never allowed to be ridiculously high, especially with being able to hit 250%-300% crit damage.  While I agree that there should be some sort of "anti-crit" stat, we just don't have it yet.

Skilled groups will always be able to take on larger forces, how much larger will depend on many, many factors.  When we can actually customize our load outs I think it will become even more apparent how prepared, syngergized, and organized groups will prevail against larger forces.  Ridiculous crit and crit dmg, one shots, etc. favors who can bring more of those broken things and makes things rely too heavily on RNG IMO.

[makkon 1,343]

Just now, destrin said:

What I am saying is that I would prefer that crit chance is never allowed to be ridiculously high, especially with being able to hit 250%-300% crit damage.  While I agree that there should be some sort of "anti-crit" stat, we just don't have it yet.

Skilled groups will always be able to take on larger forces, how much larger will depend on many, many factors.  When we can actually customize our load outs I think it will become even more apparent how prepared, syngergized, and organized groups will prevail against larger forces.  Ridiculous crit and crit dmg, one shots, etc. favors who can bring more of those broken things and makes things rely too heavily on RNG IMO.

anyway except templars (tick burn aoe, not oneshots) there is only one AT atm who can close to oneshot (from range, fast with lowest CD) - confessor =)

ok, champion can also but not with his clunky animations and crit chance

I am waiting with anticipation balance fixing times and disciplines

[Destrin 3,081]

Just now, makkon said:

there is only one AT atm who can close to oneshot (from range, fast with lowest CD) - confessor =)

Ranger too.... Ranger can one, two and three shot people on the regular with LMB, it's just much easier on the fessor.

 

[makkon 1,343]

1 minute ago, destrin said:

Ranger too.... Ranger can one, two and three shot people on the regular with LMB, it's just much easier on the fessor.

 

ranger is too bugged to get nerfing. but yes, I forget about this AT since only soulreaver playing it on eu.

I think this class have best potential for pvp after animation and skill bug fixing coz aoe silence and burst range/melee damage