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Plentiful harvest and leadership


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I’ve been observing affects of leadership and crafting/reaping and don’t know where to begin.  I feel the leader gets more out of it than the footmen... as leader isn’t restricted by range while footmen are.  In regards to plentiful harvest itself, anybody see stats change in their stat sheet.... I notice nothing...maybe it’s not updating live..

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1 hour ago, Gummiel said:

as I understood it the leader himself don't get any benefit from the leadership, only his group members

False. When I am leading a group, the leadership stats are easily visible on my own stat sheet as well if I have leadership equipped, and vanish if my group becomes empty (and thus the leadership buff goes away)

The leader must have the leadership passive equipped in his current tray before joining the group (for some reason it doesn't like to work if you equip the passive once already in a group very well) and be group leader of a group with at least one other member. It works fine if you join as member and are promoted or if you start the group yourself as long as you have the passive equipped before joining.

 

The leader will have a buff called "leadership" and group members will have an identical buff with the same icon called "footman" but they grant the same stats as per the leader's leadership training. Sometimes the buff fails to trigger and swapping trays will refresh it.

 

9 hours ago, Xpade said:

I’ve been observing affects of leadership and crafting/reaping and don’t know where to begin.  I feel the leader gets more out of it than the footmen... as leader isn’t restricted by range while footmen are.  In regards to plentiful harvest itself, anybody see stats change in their stat sheet.... I notice nothing...maybe it’s not updating live..

The final harvesting leadership buff (Harvesting Specialist) doesn't give plentiful harvest as far as I can tell. In stead it appears to give more harvest critical stuff. I can't be 100% on that as I didn't log the before/after values but I swear critical is higher now than before I trained it.

The skill text states "does not stack with potions" but this is a lie, as the potions DO provide 1 rank of plentiful harvest, and this DOES work when affected by leadership's suite of harvesting related buffs. We figured this out because I had to go spend 10 minutes making potions I thought we wouldn't need on our last motherlode run.

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On 5/11/2015 at 1:48 PM, CAWCAWCAW said:

Rub rock on face and say "Yes food is eaten now time for fight"

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13 hours ago, Gummiel said:

as I understood it the leader himself don't get any benefit from the leadership, only his group members

I guarantee you that the leader gets buffs, and it does not have a range limit like footmen does.  

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12 hours ago, PopeUrban said:

False. When I am leading a group, the leadership stats are easily visible on my own stat sheet as well if I have leadership equipped, and vanish if my group becomes empty (and thus the leadership buff goes away)

The leader must have the leadership passive equipped in his current tray before joining the group (for some reason it doesn't like to work if you equip the passive once already in a group very well) and be group leader of a group with at least one other member. It works fine if you join as member and are promoted or if you start the group yourself as long as you have the passive equipped before joining.

 

The leader will have a buff called "leadership" and group members will have an identical buff with the same icon called "footman" but they grant the same stats as per the leader's leadership training. Sometimes the buff fails to trigger and swapping trays will refresh it.

 

The final harvesting leadership buff (Harvesting Specialist) doesn't give plentiful harvest as far as I can tell. In stead it appears to give more harvest critical stuff. I can't be 100% on that as I didn't log the before/after values but I swear critical is higher now than before I trained it.

The skill text states "does not stack with potions" but this is a lie, as the potions DO provide 1 rank of plentiful harvest, and this DOES work when affected by leadership's suite of harvesting related buffs. We figured this out because I had to go spend 10 minutes making potions I thought we wouldn't need on our last motherlode run.

I easily get the 5 diamonds... assuming thats called plentiful harvest 5?  Is there a way to get to 6?  Is there a stat I can raise to gain this..?  I don't see anything about strength in a tool tip or anything.  I'm looking to see how to push into that PH6 realm as I can solo get into 5.... i have my leadership maxed out and am not sure if its more beneficial to be a leader or follower... 

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1 minute ago, Xpade said:

I'm looking to see how to push into that PH6 realm as I can solo get into 5.

The cap on PH is 5, you can not go above that.

 

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Oh....... any tips to get legendaries more often?  I've gotten them to proc 1 time and was in a duo group... and was trying to recreate that.  

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3 hours ago, Xpade said:

Oh....... any tips to get legendaries more often?  I've gotten them to proc 1 time and was in a duo group... and was trying to recreate that.  

Harvest Crit Chance, Harvest Crit Amount, Beneficial Harvest Chance, Beneficial Harvest Power, Beneficial Harvest Lifetime.  

Hit the Rank7+ nodes.

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As of today's hotfix, leadership is granting 1 rank of plentiful harvest for me, and it is stacking with potions. No skills, with leadership and a potion had my group and myself at plentiful 4.

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On 5/11/2015 at 1:48 PM, CAWCAWCAW said:

Rub rock on face and say "Yes food is eaten now time for fight"

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8 hours ago, Destrin said:

Harvest Crit Chance, Harvest Crit Amount, Beneficial Harvest Chance, Beneficial Harvest Power, Beneficial Harvest Lifetime.  

Hit the Rank7+ nodes.

Thanks, had those all maxed out or will be today.  5 pip’d all of tier 2 and will be 5 pip’d one my first ore for t3 tonight.  I’ll try and tweak my weapons and leadership stuff to see if anything changes.

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On 2/12/2018 at 10:29 PM, Destrin said:

Harvest Crit Chance, Harvest Crit Amount, Beneficial Harvest Chance, Beneficial Harvest Power, Beneficial Harvest Lifetime.  

Hit the Rank7+ nodes.

Thanks man.  Think some of it came down to a good/better tool as I noticed a difference from my tools.  Now I have to identify was it more of damage or proc rate .  When it’s all said I had seen 7 legendaries in about 30 minutes or so(ore not gems).  

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