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Pre-Alpha 5.8 hits LIVE Tuesday - Official discussion

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Until we get some initial testing under our belts, there's no way to know how long it will be until the next phase of testing will happen. 

We are not planning to do a wipe, but there will be Import/Export limits when the sanctioned Campaign begins. 


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It doesn't make sense not to wipe before the sanctioned campaigns start.

Whats sanctioned about a campaign where some have headstart in terms of gear and levels?

This needs to be clarified.


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13 minutes ago, Belantis said:

It doesn't make sense not to wipe before the sanctioned campaigns start.

Whats sanctioned about a campaign where some have headstart in terms of gear and levels?

This needs to be clarified.

Then start early. It will be the same once live hits. It's hard enough that two weeks in it will become a wasteland (due to people not logging in once fall hits). The first few weeks will be fun, after that... not so much. Why compound this with wipes?


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1 hour ago, Belantis said:

It doesn't make sense not to wipe before the sanctioned campaigns start.

Whats sanctioned about a campaign where some have headstart in terms of gear and levels?

This needs to be clarified.

Limiting imports into the first sanctioned campaign will easily solve this issue.  The only headstart will be in terms of passive tree progression.


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5 hours ago, Belantis said:

It doesn't make sense not to wipe before the sanctioned campaigns start.

Whats sanctioned about a campaign where some have headstart in terms of gear and levels?

This needs to be clarified.

They have to test the model, to see if they can beat the Uncle Bob problem with the system as designed, which the import/export limit and resetting campaigns is supposed to solve.

Kinda hard to test that if every time they start up a new campaign they wipe it clean.

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5 hours ago, Belantis said:

It doesn't make sense not to wipe before the sanctioned campaigns start.

Whats sanctioned about a campaign where some have headstart in terms of gear and levels?

This needs to be clarified.

Over the life of Crowfall, the vast majority of campaigns will not be fresh starts. People will have training and stuff to import. I don't see how that would render a campaign unsanctioned.

I suppose an argument could be made for making this first official campaign a "no import" campaign. But that doesn't necessitate a wipe.


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Once we feel good about how these unofficial Campaigns are performing, we’ll trigger our first “sanctioned” Campaigns. These will include guild and player spotlights, updates “from the front” and unique rewards… plus, of course, the bragging rights to say that you were part of the winning team on the first “real” Campaigns for Crowfall!

Your arguments are a bit vague and unconvincing considering the above quote. Unique rewards? Bragging rights? I think the game will be flawed without a wipe.

Just import a stack of golden apples and a swift mount and rush to the nearest Keeps to capture those and you're ahead in terms of points.

Even training should be wiped imo.


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I'm quite stumbled about the confirmation of no wipes, knowing the sanctioned campaigns will have reward and if you let people import stuff from this "test session" in December, there will be abuse when sanctioned will start as @Belantis pointed, even with limits in imports (except if you put 0 import for the firsts campaigns)

Kinda strange decision :blink:

Specially with the holidays coming and some people who will probably be away from home/computers.

Will see :) 

I'm excited anyway to see the patch hit the live :lol: 


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8 hours ago, Belantis said:

It doesn't make sense not to wipe before the sanctioned campaigns start.

Whats sanctioned about a campaign where some have headstart in terms of gear and levels?

This needs to be clarified.

There be a wipe before Beta tbh and then again on release if not one before beta.
tbh i rather let things play out till beta since it show how game will be releasticly a little to new players joining in and all that

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45 minutes ago, ilogos said:

Do we need to re-download the LIVE client or will it update to 5.8 ? 

The LIVE patcher that you already have installed should work for updating your LIVE client to 5.8. 


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