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Brigand would be more viable with a stealth disengage


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I feel like brigands are largely built around stealth, but after you trap, back stab, and get a short buff from leaving stealth, the fact that you have stealth becomes irrelevant in the fight. So after your short initial burst from stealth you become a crappy version of a melee warden and have to try to out brawl whatever you're fighting and it seems like most other classes are better at straight up brawling. Having some way to hop back into stealth while in combat to get another backstab in would help brigand out a lot.  It could have a really long cd to where you can basically only use it once in a fight or it could only last like 5-10sec so you have a limited amount of time to backstab again. Idk, just feel like they really need something like this.

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I was trying out builds for one since that's the style I'm gravitating to, and one of the Poisoner/Plague Majors (if I remember correctly) does provide an ability (something like Stun Dart) that lets you go back into stealth! Though if you mean as a mainstay regardless of majors, perhaps...

 

 

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Thanks for letting me know about that! But after reading the description of it, it sounds like you can only use that from stealth so it’s not exactly what I’m talking about if so. If you can use it out of stealth to get back into stealth that’s awesome though but it doesn’t sound like you can

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4 hours ago, seventhbeacon said:

I was trying out builds for one since that's the style I'm gravitating to, and one of the Poisoner/Plague Majors (if I remember correctly) does provide an ability (something like Stun Dart) that lets you go back into stealth! Though if you mean as a mainstay regardless of majors, perhaps...

 

That is unlikely to be the case.

Brigand has no ult that enables restealthing. The only way for Brigand to reenter stealth is manually through tray swapping.

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Only problem with giving a Brigand a way to re-enter stealth is it's a hardcounter to all other stealthers.  The game isn't suppose to be rock-paper- sissors.  So while I do think they should be able to restealth in some fashion the effect it will have on the other stealth classes is rather huge.

Why play a stealther can can be found? When you can play the one that can find others instead?

That being said though the Brigand needs some attention

 

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just no...If that was the case why would you EVER roll a sin???  You would basically be the "superman" stealther.  Nobody in their right mind would pick a sin with this ability OVER a ranger/brigand.  Just way way to much utility. 

Sins have the ability to re-stealth.  We don't get all the "anti-stealth" abilities/mechancis/ranged/life-steal...Did I mention RANGED???

just no, if you want to re-stealth, you will have to give-up on the 'jack of all trades' and roll a sin.  

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I honestly haven’t played assassin at all but I would assume they would have more cc, mobility, and higher damage? And I get that brigand is anti stealth but archer, warden, and every elken also can see invis and don’t sacrifice any combat capability for it and they’d all still be viable even if they couldn’t see invis and I don’t really see why brigand should be any different. If even a limited time restealth would be too much then maybe just some sort of damage boost? Idk

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2 hours ago, Talonius said:

archer, warden, and every elken also can see invis

They don't have stealth though. If you don't see the value of a stealthed antistealth platform then feel free to play something else.

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1 hour ago, Jihan said:

They don't have stealth though. If you don't see the value of a stealthed antistealth platform then feel free to play something else.

That’s fair! Maybe the brigand’s only purpose is to be able to sneak up on assassins and guinea pigs. I guess I just thought it’d be nice if they were good at something else too but maybe it’s just not the class for me. I just really like the whole melee rogue ranger theme so I was interested in them. I am enjoying a lot of the other classes in the game though! 

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The primary reason brigands don't have a combat stealth is because they aren't intended to skirmish the way full stealth classes are. They're rangers, and as such have the sustain ult built for highly agressive play that actively penalizes hit and run tactics by denying them their primary method of sustaining themselves through life on hit. Ranger as a class is thematically about tracking down a target and setting up a strong opener, then following through with that opener to a kill by striking fast and hard rather than the duelist/assassin themes of being opportunistic and slippery. The ranger specs are all centered thematically around three variations of what that strong opener is, traps, long rage bow snipes, or stealth.

Its easy to think of assassins and duelists as 'the alpha guys' but really the design of crowfall's main steaht classes are the "kill one dude and get out" guy while the ranger is the hard alpha striker that is more about planning than execution.

Obvious balance issues with warden and some other stuff about the three "specialist" classes sometimes muddy the waters but this seems to be the way they're designed.

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On 7/6/2021 at 3:03 PM, Soulreaver said:

Only problem with giving a Brigand a way to re-enter stealth is it's a hardcounter to all other stealthers.  The game isn't suppose to be rock-paper- sissors.  So while I do think they should be able to restealth in some fashion the effect it will have on the other stealth classes is rather huge.

Why play a stealther can can be found? When you can play the one that can find others instead?

That being said though the Brigand needs some attention

 

Music Dirge is a stealther that can see stealth, get back into stealth while in combat, and is a beast after the patch. I don't see why Brigands shouldn't be given that option now too. 

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