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03/20/15 - Eternal Kingdoms!

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In Today's update we unveil more information about the Eternal Kingdoms. We hope you have a coffee, this is a long one!

 

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How do I get a Kingdom?

 

Every account is granted a Kingdom. They start as mini-worlds that players can use to build and explore, which can be expanded to become much larger.

 

What is the purpose of a Kingdom and why do I want one?

 

Kingdoms are smaller versions of the Campaign worlds – not just social lobbies. You are the Monarch of this world! You can explore, craft, build structures and even fight monsters… but a Kingdom is limited in terms of difficulty and power.

 

All accounts are granted a kingdom at the beginning of the game, but using it is not required (…beyond maybe a tutorial? We haven’t decided yet.)

 

We fully expect that some players will prefer to spend the vast majority of their time participating in the Campaign Worlds, and we intend to let them do so without maintaining a Kingdom.

 

How do Kingdoms compare to Campaign Worlds?

 

Kingdoms, while potentially quite large, are limited in size compared to the Campaign worlds. They are also limited in functionality and content. They start with a relatively small amount of land and no buildings. If you want to upgrade them, it will take time and effort (and materials, which come from Campaign Worlds.)

 

Kingdoms must be upgraded (and developed) to increase their functionality. They start as single-player realms, and must be upgraded to allow more players to join.

 

How are Kingdoms laid out, and how big are they? Is it like a housing instance?

 

The map of every Kingdom is divided into a square grid. Each square in the grid is called a “cell.”

 

Kingdoms begin as a 3 cells by 3 cells square. We’re still building this system, so the cell sizing will probably change a bit… but in the current prototype, this equates to roughly half a mile square of virtual territory.

 

The Kingdom can grow to be many, many times larger than this starting size.

 

Why would the size of a cell change?

 

At some point (soon) the size of the grid cell will be locked. At this phase in development, there are some unknowns which would affect cell size. For example: Our Mounts and Caravans Kickstarter stretch goal is about to be funded! Obviously, that system will change how quickly players can move through the World, and we’ll need to test the world size to make sure it feels right for both mounted and un-mounted players.

 

For now, we are estimating a cell will likely be somewhere between a quarter of a square acre and two square acres in size. Either way, even the smallest Kingdom will be much larger than a typical MMO housing instance.

 

How can I make my Kingdom larger?

 

It will likely take a combination of time and raw materials (stone, iron and wood) to add cells (raw square footage) to your Kingdom.

 

When I add a cell, what is it filled with?

 

Terrain/Land. The contents of each cell is initially “wild”, meaning that it is filled with untamed (and unusable) forest. You cannot build assets on land that is wild – and without buildings, the land has very little utility/function.

 

To develop one or more cells, you have to unlock it, after which you can use materials to buy “parcel deeds”. These deeds represent tracts of land that can be dropped onto your map. Parcels can have unique shapes (like Tetris pieces) that always fit within the boundaries of one or more cells. Our plan is that parcel deeds will be purchased with in-game resources.

 

Note: our Kickstarter backers who receive tax-free parcels with a pledge will automatically receive enough unlocked cells to place those parcels.

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What size are these parcels (in cells)?

The most basic parcel is 1 cell x 1 cell, and will include very limited features.

 

Some parcels are much more complex, like a chain of 7 parcels that makes up a Mountain Citadel, multiple player villages, and the mountain range around it. Think of these larger areas as a complete region of a country, i.e. “I am the Lord of the Western Reach. From my Citadel, I control all of the Darkspine Moutains -- as far as the eye can see.”

 

Once you drop a parcel into a cell (or cells), these areas in your Kingdom will be “terraformed” and appear in your Kingdom. Using different types of parcels, you can build the World to be completely unique – the only limit is your creativity.

 

Not all Parcels are the same size, and shape? 

No, but they are constructed to fit precisely within a pre-determined, contiguous set of cells. While there are many parcels that are 1x1 squares, there are multi-cell parcels that form different shapes, as well.

 

The Mountain Citadel, for instance, is actually a 7 square parcel that forms an “S” shape. It includes not just the Citadel, but the mountain range that surrounds it – and enough building area to construct two mountain villages.

 

To place this parcel in their world, a player would need to have enough cells unlocked in the appropriate shape (or larger) in which they could place the specialty “S” shaped parcel.

 

In order to obtain a multi cell parcel a players will be able to combine basic 1x1 parcels for specialty parcels.

 

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Why would I want to have these larger parcels on my World?

 

Having a larger parcel (like a Mountain Citadel, or an Imperial Palace) added to the World is highly valuable to any Monarch, especially one who is trying to build a mercantile empire, because it offers very efficient use of build space (number of available contiguous building lots), increases the concurrent player cap of the World, and increases the Kingdom’s visibility for other players when the Kingdom is set “public”.

 

All of which equates to a more popular Kingdom, increased commerce and a larger potential tax base.

 

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In game terms, does a larger Kingdom (with more parcels) give me an advantage?

Yes, and no.

 

Larger maps have more cells. More cells allows you to place more parcels. More parcels means more buildings. More buildings allow for more tenants, higher online player population caps (i.e. how many players can be on this world at any time) and better visibility when other players are browsing the Kingdom list for new markets (or Kingdoms).

All of this also means more commerce, which can generate more tax revenue.

 

Note, however, that these are indirect benefits – meaning social and economic benefits that you derive from other players.

However, since every Campaign World will have import rules (that determine what can be brought into the World), having a larger, more developed Kingdom will not directly impact the game balance within the Campaigns.

 

How do I collaborate with other people (like my guildmates) on a Kingdom?

The Monarch can select sub-sections of your world map (in cells) and grant that area to another player. This selection of cells is called a “Province”.

 

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Any player who has been granted a province is considered a “noble” on that world. Nobles can drop, rearrange and remove Parcels within that Province.

 

Once I drop a Parcel, what can I do with it?

 

You can build on it. As the World is divided into cells, each Parcel is divided into “Lots.” You drop buildings and props onto Lots the same way you drop Parcels into cells.

 

You can also grant Lots to other players -- just like the World Owner granted a province to you. (In fact, we use the same system at both the micro and macro level!)

 

A 1x1 parcel of land is divided into many lots. On this grid of lots, some areas will be marked as “open” and others will be marked as “blocked” (meaning that you cannot place buildings there).

 

How do I drop buildings and props on my parcels?

 

This works the same way as dropping parcels on the World grid.

 

Each building or prop has a footprint in Lots. (again, think of these like Tetris pieces!)

 

A lot owner can place buildings and push them around to find the “right fit”. Buildings can go anywhere within the designated build area(s) of the parcel, so long as the footprint of each building is clear of other structures.

 

Are the buildings locked into pre-determined places?

 

No – the lots that are designated as “building areas” within each parcel are typically grouped together, to allow you to slide your buildings around. Generally, the building areas will be obvious… you can’t drop a building on top of a lake, or over the edge of a cliff.

 

What do these buildings do?

 

Buildings serve many purposes. They can…

  • Hold Artifacts and Relics (see the Artifacts and Relics FAQ for more information),
  • Act as crafting stations for crafting new goods,
  • Provide marketplaces (i.e. house player-run NPC vendors to sell crafted and collected goods),
  • Hold trainer thralls (who work in much the same manner as relics, providing buffs to types of passive training speeds)
  • Act as personal housing and social hubs

…and other services, as we think of them.

 

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Can other people visit my Kingdom?

 

Yes, though which players can visit is a decision left up to the Monarch (owner) of that Kingdom. “Public” worlds are open to the public, meaning that anyone can visit them and trade. “Private” worlds are not open to the public. Only land owners (nobles, vassals and tenants) of the Kingdom can enter the World.

 

Can I open (or close) my Kingdom?

 

As the Monarch, you can change your Kingdom to be “public” or “private” any time you like.

 

Why would I make my Kingdom “public”?

 

Players will be able to visit those Eternal Kingdoms that are public. Players who want to create marketplace (or social hub) will want to set their Kingdom to public and create one or more attractive, easy to navigate marketplaces in that Kingdom to attract other players.

 

What can players do in my Kingdom?

 

As the Monarch, you control the administration of your Kingdom. You can set the PvP rules, collect taxes, and grant provinces to other players, making them nobles of your Kingdom. You can collect taxes in whatever form you want to from your Nobles, be it resources or materials! Hey, it’s good to be the Monarch!

 

As a Noble, you can grant Lots to other players, making them vassals of the Kingdom and allowing them to place buildings on your land.

 

As a Vassal, you can erect buildings on your Lots, and grant access to these buildings to other players as tenants.

 

As a Tenant, you can place relics and thralls in the buildings you have access to, using these buildings as crafting stations and market/vendor locations.

 

(And remember, these permissions are hierarchical in nature – a Monarch can naturally do everything that his or her subjects can do!)

 

Can I control the layout of my Kingdom?

 

Yes. Parcels fit together like Tetris pieces. You can arrange them however you like -- as long as the pieces fit together. You can even pick up and move the pieces, if you don’t like where they are placed.

 

What if that Guild Leader stops playing?

 

If the guild leader quits, you can always remove your parcels (and any buildings/improvements) and put them in a different Kingdom.

 

Can I own a house but share Admin rights?

 

Yes, you may add another player to the Admin list of your building making them a Tenant of the structure. This will also add them to that Kingdom’s fealty tree, allowing them to log in even if the Kingdom is set to “private.”

 

Can I own land or be a tenant on multiple different Kingdoms?

 

Yes, you can – but you should make sure you have the appropriate amount of land to place for the provinces you are granted. No monarch is going to want to grant provinces to Nobles who can’t put that space to good use!

 

Is there an upkeep cost on the land or buildings?

 

Yes. You will be required to pay taxes and maintenance to the system for the structures and land – unless you have a tax free parcel, in which case the land has no upkeep cost.

 

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If your taxes fall into arrears, the structures on the land will begin to degrade. Once the buildings have fully degraded, they won’t disappear – you can still repair them – but the land will fall back to its “wild” state and the buildings decay to the point they are removed from the world and placed into the owner’s inventory. They will not be usable until the taxes are repaid.

 

If I invest in parcels or buildings and drop them on a World, are they locked there?  What if I change my mind and want to leave?

If you decide to leave a world – or, if you are ejected from a World by the players above you in the fealty chain -- all of your structures (and any relics or thralls placed in them) will be moved into your account bank. Parcels and Buildings can be moved easily from your account bank into a new Kingdom, once you find one.    


Tully Ackland

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Crossposting myself for hopefully increased dev visibility:

 

 


Great update.  Plenty of information for the folks that were refusing to donate or threatening to remove donations based on lack of EK info.

 

Lots to take in, most of it good.  The only thing I'm hoping for now is a genuine effort to look into those opt-in siege type rules, or other various ideas the community has been offering for making EKs have more risk/reward associated with them.  e.g. Ren's ideas that I'm always plugging.  (Sorry, I just thought they were a step in the right direction).


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As a hopeful guild leader, I think you got it right! EKs offer enough in-game benefits to matter, but not so many to provide considerable/overpowering abilities(of course this could change over development, but you should be able to balance it just right!) This awesome to hear!!!


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Thanks for the info drop! Here is my first round of questions!

 

So the Grid (aka cells) is the foundation, and Parcels can be (and usually are) sized to cover multiple cells. The Mountain Citadel is 7 cells, but only 1 parcel?

 

The minimum grant to all players is 9 parcels..... is this going to be changed to say we get 9 "Cells" per EK to start? I'm confused....

 

How is the edge of the 'owned' EK parcels delineated? Is it an invisible wall? Or an impassable terrain feature? Or are we able to run out past the owned parcels into a huge world full of mountains and caves and rivers and lakes?

 

Similarly, will 'unclaimed' parcels around the area we are building up be traversable? In the "World Management" image, there are several dark 'unclaimed' cells in and around the claimed ones. Can we still run through those areas, even though they are "wild"?

 

Will each players EK have it's own unique procedural "seed"? Or all they all the same?

 

Do KickStarter perks upgrade EK 'realsm' automatically beyond "single player"?

 

Will the "Mountain Citadel" in every EK be the same look? Ditto the "Scholar's Building, Small Graveyard, etc...?

 

Looking at the "Parcel Management" image, a "Villa Style A" seems to take up 9 parcels. Is that correct?

 

 

So, we have Cell's, which is what you drop Parcels onto, which are then subdivided somehow into Lots. Static division, or can we control how it's divided?

The Monarch can grant players a Province, which is what... parcels, or cells? Do they have to be contiguous?

 

I like the reversal of a tidbit we saw before where building improvements were permanent. I figured that wouldn't fly, heh.

 

In all, I am...... encouraged.

 

More later as I digest and reflect on this!

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It looks ok I guess.

 

I'm disappointed that the only risk/reward involved in an EK is the relic system.

 

1.  No sieges?

2.  No incentive to make your kingdom full-loot pvp.

 

You missed an opportunity here IMO.

While I would love for there to be EK sieges, I think it would be a bad idea to have full or even partial loot on the Eternal Kingdoms because that would just draw players away from the campaigns that already have those rules. If I had to change EK for whatever reason, I would have EK PvP sieges available to those who choose to participate but it would be no risk no reward.

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Great update with a lot of great info on the EK's.  

 

With the focus on having more parcels to build more (efficient) buildings to conduct more commerce to get more taxes... can you clarify the benefit of this as it pertains to the initial launch with the Dreg ruleset?  What level of imports are we looking at?  I ask because commerce is good, except there doesn't seem to be much of a monetary system in place.  It's all resource/material driven.  And if the EK's are driving that, then you'd want to be able to make use of those resources/materials in the campaigns.  If Dregs support no imports or imports of only what the character is wearing, that lessens the value of the EK commerce stuff.... no?

 

Can you also clarify how PvP in the EK's will work as it pertains to tenants?  If I give out 5 parcels and my EK is plus PvP, can I destroy the buildings on those rented parcels?  Why would I do this?  For fun or boredom.  

 

And finally, can you clarify how quickly global EK changes go into effect?  If I evict tenants or change land to +PvP or -PvP, how quickly does that take hold?  Instantaneously?  


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Yes. You will be required to pay taxes and maintenance to the system for the structures and land – unless you have a tax free parcel, in which case the land has no upkeep cost. 

 

How do you get the tax free parcels outside the tiers?

Will they be available in the store?

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Kingdoms begin as a 3 cells by 3 cells square. We’re still building this system, so the cell sizing will probably change a bit… but in the current prototype, this equates to roughly half a mile square of virtual territory.

 

Half a mile square is the same things as a quarter of a square mile. .25 mi2 is 160 acres. According to this line, each cell is about 18 acres.

 

 

For now, we are estimating a cell will likely be somewhere between a quarter of a square acre and two square acres in size.

 

"Square acre" is not a unit of measurement. Acres already measure area; a "square acre" is simply an acre of area which happens to be shaped like a square.

 

A square shaped region with an area of a quarter acre is about 104 feet on a side. 312 feet is definitely not a half mile.

 

A square shaped region with an area of two acres is 295 feet on a side. 885 feet stil isn't anything like a half mile.

 

Someone is doing math very badly and I have no idea if a single cell is supposed to be 200ish feet across  or 900ish feet across.


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Great info! It really makes me want to simultaneously run a kingdom and then go 'wow that's a lot of work maybe I want to be in someone else's'. XD This sounds great for guilds!

 

Speaking of guilds, the mention of a guild leader was suddenly thrown in there. I assume in that example you were equating a guild leader to a monarch? Speaking of using kingdom for guild purposes, does a monarch have an ability to stop nobles from inviting certain people? Like, having a Kingdom have a 'guild-only' restriction, or blacklisting a certain person?

 

I really like the graphics for this stuff too - it makes it much easier to visualize the system. :D

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It's really great to finally see the mechanics involved in EKs as far as land usage and such is concerned. I'm a bit skeptical when it comes to how seamlessly all of these pieces will fit together, but I assume it's been tested and works well, so I guess I'll just have to wait till we get some in-world imagery so I can see it for myself.

 

I also wonder if the EKs and the way land is manifest will have some kind of in-character explanation, or if that's not seen as important. Not sure it is, but I've been pondering what could possibly cover what we've seen. Going to be interesting to see how these gaps are filled, but this is a very good start.

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It seems to be just a giant fluffy carebear fun land from this description. For a game that is all about risk/reward, why waste so much time and resources on a feature that has neither? It was stated this game isn't for everyone, so why are the EK being developed and marketed to non pvp types?

 

Edit: player controlled PvP rules is also a waste of time/resources as the only reason to go to another persons EK will be to shop. No one will shop in a PvP enabled EK if it is allow in some and not others. People when given the choice will want to shop in peace, thus removing any risk in the process and only reward(boring!). Take away the option and enable PvP(and inventory looting)in all eternal kingdoms to remedy this.

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This is probably the best update yet.  Lots of good information.  Can't wait to build my city in the Eternal Kingdoms with my buddies.

 

 

I'm day dreaming of city building while the tetris theme plays in my head.

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