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I don't understand. The Kickstarter prizes are being turned into normal bundles with some items missing? Sorry, the way it's worded has me confused.

 

They are removing the Kickstarter exclusive awards, which includes the backer goals.

Its KS exclusive for a reason, when the KS is done, you wont be able to get them again.

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I don't understand. The Kickstarter prizes are being turned into normal bundles with some items missing? Sorry, the way it's worded has me confused.

Re read the post. It's pretty clear.  

 

AFTER the Kickstarter ends there will be new packages.  The current KS packages are not changing.  In a matter of hours however the KS ends and the KS packages will no longer be available.

 

So AFTER the KS ends there will be new packages.  None of the KS packages are changing.


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well as far as I can tell, you get all of the backer rewards at the $5 level except the NPC @ the $100 level.

 

So, statue, active relic upgrade, pack animal, mount, access to minotaur. Oh and no access to a tax free parcel until the $40 level.

Well Basically im thinking i get all the rewards that everyone backer can get without have to buy a certain package. Which is cool, i just wanted to pledge more in the future when funds became available.

 

This is a quote from the main post

 "We’re going to keep the package names the same and change the content of these bundles for NEW backers – again, we aren’t changing anything for those who signed up DURING Kickstarter!"

 

I was like yay !

but then you asked a question that basically is my situation. and he answered no. So above quote is misleading hurtfully so ;(. Basically now even as a KS backer if you pledge later you will get the new backer rewards and not the old ones. Even though you signed up during kickstarter.... unless the dev has this mixed up? which i doubt.

Unless he means we wont change anything in your backer lvl form ks.

 

Will the prices still be the same for KS backers? saya  package cost 40 now in the future would it still be 40 for KS backers after ks ends. Or will it be 45-50 dollars now for basically everyone. new and old

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Thats how I am understanding it.

 

Now I'm wondering if I should drop to Amber and then get the separate alpha 1 later... cause I only did Sapphire for Alpha 1.

 

And i want only the parcels.

 

Im Gold..

 

$75 for 6 parcels.

$250 for 14 parcels.

 

So....

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I currently posses kickstarter avatar frame, now the main problem is if i upgrade it leaves the problem for me that:

 

If i use bronze avatar frame i will be able to show that i kickstarted but it wont look as good as gold(opinion)

If i use gold avatar frame then i wont be able to show that i kickstarted. 

 

And frame is the only thing i care about gold package :/

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well as far as I can tell, you get all of the backer rewards at the $5 level except the NPC @ the $100 level.

 

So, statue, active relic upgrade, pack animal, mount, access to minotaur. Oh and no access to a tax free parcel until the $40 level.

You really need to look again... your missing a lot as there are more than one listed minimum tier requirement in the exclusive rewards!

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I currently posses kickstarter avatar frame, now the main problem is if i upgrade it leaves the problem for me that:

 

If i use bronze avatar frame i will be able to show that i kickstarted but it wont look as good as gold(opinion)

If i use gold avatar frame then i wont be able to show that i kickstarted. 

 

And frame is the only thing i care about gold package :/

u r deranged

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The Kickstarter packages end tomorrow morning when our Kickstarter campaign ends.  New 2015 backer packages are then available which are subsets of the original Kickstarter backer packages and will be available for purchase on our website.

 

If you purchased a package during Kickstarter campaign, nothing changes for you.

 

I think the primary sources for confusion are:

- some items are better in the non-KS versions than in the KS versions (ie KS Emerald gets 40 Tax-Free Parcels but non-KS gets 80 Tax-Free Parcels)

- some differentials between KS/non-KS pairs are potentially confusing (ie KS Gold, KS Emerald, and non-KS Emerald all get 72 months VIP but non-KS Gold gets 24 months VIP)

- the system seems to be well-written for comparing KS vs non-KS of the same level but it doesn't have easy comparisons of KS to non-KS upgrade paths so people are in a rush to try to figure out a way to game the upgrade paths.

 

Hope this helps,

CopperStall

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I think it's delightfully educational to see how backers assign values to various parts of the bundles.  We do our best to put things together to offer a great overall value to people, but everyone has different things that are turn ons and turn offs.   I'll be glad when we have individual items up for sale and can get more diversity in the bundles so we can please more people.  But that is after today, today we've go the Kickstarter packages for 16 more hours on Kickstarter and our website at http://crowfall.com/#/payment.

 

NOTE:  if you wanted a second package for a spouse/friend/etc. you can pledge on Kickstarter (which only lets you have one pledge) *and* on crowfall.com/#/payment and after Kickstarter is over we will merge them both into one crowfall.com account (for now).  Later we'll give you the ability for you to gift the entire bundle to another person.


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Well Basically im thinking i get all the rewards that everyone backer can get without have to buy a certain package. Which is cool, i just wanted to pledge more in the future when funds became available.

 

This is a quote from the main post

 "We’re going to keep the package names the same and change the content of these bundles for NEW backers – again, we aren’t changing anything for those who signed up DURING Kickstarter!"

 

I was like yay !

but then you asked a question that basically is my situation. and he answered no. So above quote is misleading hurtfully so ;(. Basically now even as a KS backer if you pledge later you will get the new backer rewards and not the old ones. Even though you signed up during kickstarter.... unless the dev has this mixed up? which i doubt.

Unless he means we wont change anything in your backer lvl form ks.

 

Will the prices still be the same for KS backers? saya  package cost 40 now in the future would it still be 40 for KS backers after ks ends. Or will it be 45-50 dollars now for basically everyone. new and old

 

Your KS pledge level contents will not be lost by upgrading after the KS ends. 

 

The thing that they were clarifying was that you would get less perks from upgrading after KS than upgrading during KS.

 

As far as I can tell to figure out your perks for upgrading post-KS you look at your KS pledge level perks and the equivalent non-KS level and compare them item-by-item to the non-KS level you would upgrade to. You then get extra perks based upon the lesser of the 2 differences for each item.

 

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I think the primary sources for confusion are:

- some items are better in the non-KS versions than in the KS versions (ie KS Emerald gets 40 Tax-Free Parcels but non-KS gets 80 Tax-Free Parcels)

- some differentials between KS/non-KS pairs are potentially confusing (ie KS Gold, KS Emerald, and non-KS Emerald all get 72 months VIP but non-KS Gold gets 24 months VIP)

- the system seems to be well-written for comparing KS vs non-KS of the same level but it doesn't have easy comparisons of KS to non-KS upgrade paths so people are in a rush to try to figure out a way to game the upgrade paths.

 

Hope this helps,

CopperStall

Your first point is mistaken, as pointed out earlier

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When we started our Kickstarter, we wanted to offer our earliest backers the best deals possible.  And we did!

 

We didn’t do a perfect job though, our particular game is not identical to other MMO’s (as you may have noticed).  Some of our backer packages ended up with pretty extreme value multiples because we love our backers!  In particular the Amber and Sapphire packages are amazing values for backers, followed closely by Gold and Ruby packages.

 

After our Kickstarter campaign ends on 3/26/15 (thank you for our success by the way!), it will be time to change the contents of these backer packages.

 

We’re going to keep the package names the same and change the content of these bundles for NEW backers – again, we aren’t changing anything for those who signed up DURING Kickstarter!  We love our early backers, and we are delighted that you are getting such good deals.  But going forward, new people who sign up won’t be getting quite as good as deal as you did.

 

Most of the non-exclusive items dropped from packages will be able to be purchased individually on our store, just not not right away.

 

Kickstarter Backers got a number of exclusive items and “Backer Number Goal” rewards, most of which will not be offered in the post-Kickstarter bundles.  Except the horses, because everyone likes and needs horses!

              

OK, what do these old and new packages look like?

 

I’ll show three example packages with color coding to illustrate the changes:  XXX  = Content changed, XXX = Content lost, XXX = Backer Number Goals Rewards lost

 

Gold: Kickstarter bundle                                             Gold: Post-Kickstarter 2015 bundle

 

Patron title in credits                                                       Patron title in credits

Digital copy of the game                                                 Digital copy of the game

Alpha 2                                                                            Alpha 2

One cottage                                                                    One cottage

Digital Art Book                                                               Digital Art Book

Digital Sound Track                                                         Digital Sound Track

Gold Forum Badge and Frame (KS specific)                  Gold  Forum Badge and Frame (2015 backer specific)

Stronghold: Small Fortification - KS exclusive                Stronghold: Small Fortification version 2 - 2015 backer exclusive

12 months VIP                                                                9 months VIP

Quarterhorse/War Horse/Nightmare KS Exclusive        Quarterhorse/War Horse/Nightmare version 2 – 2015 backer exclusive

Exclusive God Statue (1 of 12)

Reserved  Unique Character name

2 Extra Character slots

Name a Fallen Hero

Increased bank size by 20%

The Arcane Weapons set

The extra month of VIP

The All-Father statue and Relic upgrade

The Pack Pig! Caravan figurine

3 Bonus Tax-Free Parcels

Dwarven Blacksmith Thrall

 

Sapphire: Kickstarter bundle                                     Sapphire: Post-Kickstarter 2015 bundle

 

Patron title in credits                                                      Patron title in credits

Digital copy of the game                                                Digital copy of the game

Alpha 1                                                                           Alpha 1

2 cottages                                                                       2 cottages

Digital Art Book                                                              Digital Art Book

Digital Sound Track                                                        Digital Sound Track

Baron/Baroness title                                                       Baron/Baroness title

1 Divine Cathedral                                                         1 Divine Cathedral

Access to expanded colors guild heraldry                     Access to expanded colors guild heraldry

Access to expanded symbols guild heraldry                  Access to expanded symbols guild heraldry

10 Tax-Free Parcels                                                      10 Tax-Free Parcels

Sapphire Forum Badge and Frame (KS specific)          Sapphire  Forum Badge and Frame (2015 backer specific)

Stronghold: Small Castle - KS exclusive                        Stronghold: Small Castle version 2 - 2015 backer exclusive

72 months VIP                                                                24 months VIP

Quarterhorse/War Horse/Nightmare KS Exclusive        Quarterhorse/War Horse/Nightmare version 2 – 2015 backer exclusive

1 Villa                                                                              

Physical Collectors’ Edition

Exclusive God Statue (1 of 12)

Reserved  Unique Character name

3 Extra Character slots

Name a Fallen Hero

Increased bank size by 20%

Reserve Guild Name

The Arcane Weapons set

The extra month of VIP

The All-Father statue and Relic upgrade

The Pack Pig! Caravan figurine

+5 Bonus Tax-Free Parcels

Dwarven Blacksmith Thrall

 

Emerald Kickstarter                                                      Emerald Post-Kickstarter 2015

 

Patron title in credits                                                       Patron title in credits

Digital copy of the game                                                 Digital copy of the game

Alpha 1                                                                            Alpha 1

3 cottages                                                                       3 cottages

Digital Art Book                                                               Digital Art Book

Digital Sound Track                                                         Digital Sound Track

Duke/Duchess title                                                          Duke/Duchess title

1 Divine Cathedral                                                          1 Divine Cathedral

Access to expanded colors guild heraldry                      Access to expanded colors guild heraldry

Access to expanded symbols guild heraldry                  Access to expanded symbols guild heraldry

72 months VIP                                                                72 months VIP

2 Villas                                                                            2 Villas

3 Extra Character slots                                                   3 Extra Character Slots

1 Manor building                                                             1 Manor building

1 Launch Party Invite + guest                                         1 Launch Party Invite + guest

1 Premier Backer Studio Tour + guest                            1 Premier Backer Studio Tour + guest

Monthly Q&A with ACE                                                  Monthly Q&A with ACE

Emerald Forum Badge and Frame (KS specific)           Emerald Forum Badge and Frame (2015 backer specific)

40 Tax-Free Parcels                                                       80 Tax-Free Parcels

Stronghold: Large Castle - KS exclusive                       Stronghold: Large Castle version 2 - 2015 backer exclusive

Quarterhorse/War Horse/Nightmare KS Exclus.           Quarterhorse/War Horse/Nightmare version 2 – 2015 backer exclusive

Physical Collectors’ Edition

Unique Guild Heraldry

Exclusive God Statue (1 of 12)

Reserved  Unique Character name

Name a Fallen Hero

Increased bank size by 20%

Reserve Guild Name

The Arcane Weapons set

The extra month of VIP

The All-Father statue and Relic upgrade

The Pack Pig! Caravan figurine

+40 Bonus Tax-Free Parcels

Dwarven Blacksmith Thrall

 

As we get closer to launching the game we will probably change the packages again.  Earlier backers will always get better deals!

 

Thank you again for all your support1

Emerald got 80 ^^. Think that's wrong.

 

But heck.

I would love to know what Version 2 is. And how they differentiate visualy.

 

 

Gongratz to being double founded and more ^^.

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Your first point is mistaken, as pointed out earlier

 

That will make things easier. They should fix that in the original post, then.

KS Emerald getting 40 parcels while non-KS Emerald gets 80 definitely seemed like a typo.

 

CopperStall

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NOTE:  if you wanted a second package for a spouse/friend/etc. you can pledge on Kickstarter (which only lets you have one pledge) *and* on crowfall.com/#/payment and after Kickstarter is over we will merge them both into one crowfall.com account (for now).  Later we'll give you the ability for you to gift the entire bundle to another person.

 

Can you clarify this?  Does this imply we could get 2x Amber packages and combine them?  Would we have to split them later?

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I think it's delightfully educational to see how backers assign values to various parts of the bundles.  We do our best to put things together to offer a great overall value to people, but everyone has different things that are turn ons and turn offs.   I'll be glad when we have individual items up for sale and can get more diversity in the bundles so we can please more people.  But that is after today, today we've go the Kickstarter packages for 16 more hours on Kickstarter and our website at http://crowfall.com/#/payment.

 

NOTE:  if you wanted a second package for a spouse/friend/etc. you can pledge on Kickstarter (which only lets you have one pledge) *and* on crowfall.com/#/payment and after Kickstarter is over we will merge them both into one crowfall.com account (for now).  Later we'll give you the ability for you to gift the entire bundle to another person.

I even assigned economic value to quarter house, im hoping that i can sell KS quarterhorse for 50$ and keep the KS warhorse for myself.

 

In one image Warhorse wears armor, in one another it does not. ;..; 

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That will make things easier. They should fix that in the original post, then.

KS Emerald getting 40 parcels while non-KS Emerald gets 80 definitely seemed like a typo.

 

CopperStall

+40 listed twice = 80... pre-Emerald/post-Emerald are equivalent at 80...

 

your second point is also wrong... pre-gold 12months VIP... post-gold 9 months VIP

pre-sapphire 72 months VIP... post-sapphire 24 months

 

why is this so confusing?

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Can you clarify this?  Does this imply we could get 2x Amber packages and combine them?  Would we have to split them later?

 

Yes, only one package is allowed on any account before we go Live with the game.  And you can't break up packages into peices.  But you can gift one package by transferring it to another person, so long as they have a crowfall.com email account (and don't have a package themselves!).


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