Diz 495 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Wow... Trash talking already? Absolutely! I've already hunted down and exterminated Ziz (admittedly, Zybak did all the work, I just smacked him once or twice then took all his shiny gear) so now I have to start hunting down the rest of my fellow Ascendance members and giving them dirt naps! JamesGoblin 1 Chapter Leader Link to post Share on other sites
Cantaloupes 36 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Did Ziz make a highlight real of you killing him? Is the past broadcast on this stream so I can watch him throw his arms around and panic as he dies? JamesGoblin and Wrathmane 2 Cantaloupes - Member / "It's a strange thing to see, that moment when the extraordinary becomes ordinary." Link to post Share on other sites
Wrathmane 91 Share Posted September 23, 2015 lol...... man I've not been able to get into the Hunger Dome as much as I would have liked... Their tests are at weird times I find.... When I'm working or putting my kids to bed..... I need a good evening test period..... to get in there and bury some peoples.... JamesGoblin 1 Wrathmane - Remnant of Ascendance Link to post Share on other sites
Diz 495 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Did Ziz make a highlight real of you killing him? Is the past broadcast on this stream so I can watch him throw his arms around and panic as he dies? I've got Ziz's death on film Granted... it also shows that it was totally Zybak that killed Ziz, I only got 1 or 2 shots on him before he chain pulled me at point blank range which sent me flying about 20 feet away... But you do get to see the shiny gear I stole from his corpse Hopefully I'll have the vid put together tonight. JamesGoblin 1 Chapter Leader Link to post Share on other sites
Ziz 1,454 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I've got Ziz's death on film Granted... it also shows that it was totally Zybak that killed Ziz, I only got 1 or 2 shots on him before he chain pulled me at point blank range which sent me flying about 20 feet away... But you do get to see the shiny gear I stole from his corpse Hopefully I'll have the vid put together tonight. lol, beware of my mighty chain pulls JamesGoblin 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Diz 495 Share Posted September 23, 2015 lol, beware of my mighty chain pulls You'll laugh when you see it. At first I overshot you on the charge, and you turned around, hit chain pull and I just went flying backwards. Apparently the game doesn't allow two "iz"'s to be that close to each other. JamesGoblin 1 Chapter Leader Link to post Share on other sites
Varius 349 Share Posted September 24, 2015 It looked like a lot of fun, funny you guys got on the same team. JamesGoblin 1 Varius - Veteran Member of LG Link to post Share on other sites
Diz 495 Share Posted September 24, 2015 It looked like a lot of fun, funny you guys got on the same team. It was! First run of the night, too! Video is delayed because Diz can't seem to line up audio that works well, and because there's another test tonight, so I'll just add footage from that to it and hopefully put it together on Saturday. Music is hard. JamesGoblin 1 Chapter Leader Link to post Share on other sites
gizmaul 441 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) One day I too will be able to test! Then we can have a 3 way. Giz v Ziz v Diz. Or we can form a boy band. Have not really decided yet. - Side Note- Any of your people still stomping around in Archeage? Edited September 24, 2015 by gizmaul JamesGoblin 1 Don't Drink the Coolaid Gizmaul - I taught your girlfriend that thing you like! Link to post Share on other sites
Diz 495 Share Posted September 24, 2015 One day I too will be able to test! Then we can have a 3 way. Giz v Ziz v Diz. Or we can form a boy band. Have not really decided yet. - Side Note- Any of your people still stomping around in Archeage? Performances to be broadcast on Ziz's stream! As for Archage, I don't believe so. Most of the crew is in ESO right now, a few in Skyforge, a couple in WoW and SWTOR, and those of us who are just kind of in limbo playing random games, Alpha testing a certain competitor, etc. JamesGoblin 1 Chapter Leader Link to post Share on other sites
Torquebow 48 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Performances to be broadcast on Ziz's stream! As for Archage, I don't believe so. Most of the crew is in ESO right now, a few in Skyforge, a couple in WoW and SWTOR, and those of us who are just kind of in limbo playing random games, Alpha testing a certain competitor, etc. And one lonely guy playing GW2. Archeage had potential to be really good, I couldn't stand the whole p2w thing with labor points. Anyway, hopefully only a few months more until I can get into Alpha 3 and then its go time. I SHALL KILL ALL THE THINGS! JamesGoblin and Diz 2 Torquebow - Aspirant of Ascendance & Thrall of Vokundein "Just tank it with your face" Link to post Share on other sites
Varius 349 Share Posted September 25, 2015 And one lonely guy playing GW2. Archeage had potential to be really good, I couldn't stand the whole p2w thing with labor points. Anyway, hopefully only a few months more until I can get into Alpha 3 and then its go time. I SHALL KILL ALL THE THINGS! Nerd! JamesGoblin and Torquebow 2 Varius - Veteran Member of LG Link to post Share on other sites
Hafjoldr 21 Share Posted September 28, 2015 And one lonely guy playing GW2. Archeage had potential to be really good, I couldn't stand the whole p2w thing with labor points. Anyway, hopefully only a few months more until I can get into Alpha 3 and then its go time. I SHALL KILL ALL THE THINGS! I agree. But then again, many MMOs have had potential, but none of them, not even the ones that actually did some stuff properly, were able to make full use of it. JamesGoblin and Torquebow 2 Hafjoldr - Veteran Member Link to post Share on other sites
Varius 349 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I agree. But then again, many MMOs have had potential, but none of them, not even the ones that actually did some stuff properly, were able to make full use of it. p2w always causes problems but there is a good micro transaction system that is shown in other games besides MMO's that works. JamesGoblin 1 Varius - Veteran Member of LG Link to post Share on other sites
Spork 25 Share Posted September 29, 2015 It's pretty simple. If the stuff you can buy is anything other than cosmetic then it's p2w. JamesGoblin 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Diz 495 Share Posted September 29, 2015 It's pretty simple. If the stuff you can buy is anything other than cosmetic then it's p2w. I would disagree to a certain degree. While generally, yes, most non-cosmetic options do give the impression of "pay to win", I can see an argument being made for "convenience" items which are not purely cosmetic, but also only provide the benefit of reduction of time spent for X activity. XP Boost options (when there is a level cap), crafting boosts, stuff like that. Being able to directly pay for top tier gear or abilities is when P2W comes into play, imo, and destroys the balance making it so those who are not paying in, are at a very obvious gear/ability/stat disadvantage. JamesGoblin 1 Chapter Leader Link to post Share on other sites
Varius 349 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) I would disagree to a certain degree. While generally, yes, most non-cosmetic options do give the impression of "pay to win", I can see an argument being made for "convenience" items which are not purely cosmetic, but also only provide the benefit of reduction of time spent for X activity. XP Boost options (when there is a level cap), crafting boosts, stuff like that. Being able to directly pay for top tier gear or abilities is when P2W comes into play, imo, and destroys the balance making it so those who are not paying in, are at a very obvious gear/ability/stat disadvantage. The XP boosts are not a problem as long as they are not relavent to when getting to max level first matters. If you buy a bunch of XP pots right when a game comes out and then you just power your way to being better than everyone else by sheer level then thats p2w. Edited September 30, 2015 by Varius JamesGoblin 1 Varius - Veteran Member of LG Link to post Share on other sites
Lakevren 11 Share Posted October 1, 2015 The XP boosts are not a problem as long as they are not relavent to when getting to max level first matters. If you buy a bunch of XP pots right when a game comes out and then you just power your way to being better than everyone else by sheer level then thats p2w. The use of it is not so bad. You still require effort to grind through. War Thunder, Marvel Heroes, and Planetside 2 are a few games which has this kind of set up, but as Varius said, max level isn't necessarily the win part since it's a very long grind. And in some of these games, skill matters more than a higher level. Yes, you progress faster, but it doesn't really make you better. You might just get cooler/neater or different stuff faster, but not better stuff. Before some one corrects me, however, those games I mentioned still makes you better with the XP boosts, but the largest difference is largely from a fresh newbie to someone who played a month or two. Once you get mid-way or even less than mid-way, anything after that only minutely makes you better, and it takes a much longer time and still requires effort and playing the game. Skill still matters more once you get to a certain threshold. Some games, especially with paid RNG boxes or some sort of RNG that actually give better items or components for items, yikes. That's pretty much P2W and ridiculous money gouging. It's also one of my most hated form of microtransactions. Korean games tend to be notorious for this. I think Tera had it, though I don't know if they changed it. JamesGoblin 1 Lakevren - Remnant Link to post Share on other sites
Torquebow 48 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) The XP boosts are not a problem as long as they are not relavent to when getting to max level first matters. If you buy a bunch of XP pots right when a game comes out and then you just power your way to being better than everyone else by sheer level then thats p2w. Exactly, I like the way GW2 is setup. Where technically you can buy a legendary if you wanted to. But in a competitive enviroment within the game, that doesn't mean anything if your not good. Your gonna get rolled in PvP and out performed in PvE because gear is not really the defining characteristic of player power like in some other games. Also I like Wildstar's model so far, it just went F2P but it looks pretty good. Unfortunately the re-launch is a cluster**** disaster in itself so far. Edited October 1, 2015 by Torquebow JamesGoblin 1 Torquebow - Aspirant of Ascendance & Thrall of Vokundein "Just tank it with your face" Link to post Share on other sites
Ziz 1,454 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Did Ziz make a highlight real of you killing him? Is the past broadcast on this stream so I can watch him throw his arms around and panic as he dies? There is a video out there, but it's me killing Diz JamesGoblin 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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