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Asian Stretch Goal going slow?

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Actually.... do the Asian markets like this kind of game? Is this a worthy goal?  is it just a waste of our money?

 

When I think Asian market I think of Monster Hunter(Pve), Archeage( PvP.... most Asian videos I saw were Arena), Age of Wushu(PvP) Dragon Nest(PvE brawler) Final Fantasies(PvE) , Black Desert went carebear mode and only allow level cap to Open PvP with really harsh penalties if you do, Blade and Soul( Porn), Scarlet Blade( Porn) Azera( Porn), cutesy anime pve experiences, and MOAR PORN.

 

from what I can think of..... nope... Asians don't like pvp unless its starcraft.

Sorry man you are way off base. 


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http://community.crowfall.com/index.php?/topic/7900-current-stretch-goal-needs-to-change/

 

I made a thread in the suggestion box about this. I looked at the numbers and the type of games in Asian markets... they don't add up.

 

 

They make anime about mmorpg pvp, they want to like it :)

Log Horizon is an anime about MMOs.... they only did raids and fought NPCS... except for like two fights.... the death penalty is they just lose a bit of memory of the real world.

 

Sword Art Online was a dungeon simulator that had open world PvP but those people were considered Evil because Asians themselves view it as evil. Kirito the main character even stated sometimes people just like being the bad guy.... which makes a point PvP is bad unless its for a good cause.


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http://community.crowfall.com/index.php?/topic/7900-current-stretch-goal-needs-to-change/

 

I made a thread in the suggestion box about this. I looked at the numbers and the type of games in Asian markets... they don't add up.

 

 

Log Horizon is an anime about MMOs.... they only did raids and fought NPCS... except for like two fights.... the death penalty is they just lose a bit of memory of the real world.

 

Sword Art Online was a dungeon simulator that had open world PvP but those people were considered Evil because Asians themselves view it as evil. Kirito the main character even stated sometimes people just like being the bad guy.... which makes a point PvP is bad unless its for a good cause.

You seem to be using japan as a representation for eastern gaming preferences... quite an inaccurate way to go about things.... try looking at china and korea....


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You seem to be using japan as a representation for eastern gaming preferences... quite an inaccurate way to go about things.... try looking at china and korea....

I have looked at them... maybe you should as well? Their MMOs are all about the PvE as well.


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No... they arent...

I gave you stats, I list you popular MMO's in that region

 

Done talking with you. I have seen your past posts.... you are stubborn to a fault.


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I gave you stats, I list you popular MMO's in that region

 

Done talking with you. I have seen your past posts.... you are stubborn to a fault.

You seem to have never even heard of lineage...

 

And i'm sorry but calling games porn is not a stat... trying to paint a picture of asia's gaming habits based on anime is not a stat, and using sales figures for console games in japan is not relevant to the bulk of asias mmo business (china and korea)

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You seem to have never even heard of lineage...

 

And i'm sorry but calling games porn is not a stat... trying to paint a picture of asia's gaming habits based on anime is not a stat, and using sales figures for console games in japan is not relevant to the bulk of asias mmo business (china and korea)

Lineage isn't a western game... its Korean. I never experienced lineage... I doubt there is the roaming and killing randoms though.

Asians don't take kindly to western games.

 

No matter how you look at those Adult games.... they don't support PvP... they support dress up.


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Don't be a custard gonzo.- Abraham Lincoln

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Lineage isn't a western game... its Korean. I never experienced lineage... I doubt there is the roaming and killing randoms though.

Asians don't take kindly to western games.

 

No matter how you look at those Adult games.... they don't support PvP... they support dress up.

Sorry but they do support pvp, some of them even have esports scenes over in asia... (blade and soul for example) ...

 

Asians seem to have taken kindly to WoW... china seemed to enjoy shadowbane so much that a chinese company even decided to buy it perhaps looking towards some future project...

 

Again, if you are going to argue that it's not good to market to asia... show me exactly what ffa pvp mmorpgs are flourishing in the west right now?


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Sorry but they do support pvp, some of them even have esports scenes over in asia... (blade and soul for example) ...

 

Asians seem to have taken kindly to WoW... china seemed to enjoy shadowbane so much that a chinese company even decided to buy it perhaps looking towards some future project...

 

Again, if you are going to argue that it's not good to market to asia... show me exactly what ffa pvp mmorpgs are flourishing in the west right now?

That's custard exactly what I am saying. There is no base for it in the west right now cuz there is no product! You still aren't getting it. Blade and Soul supports structured PvP.... not any open world full loot.

 

Right now Albion is gaining some head way... but this genre is very new and the Asian markets are not big on new.


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The East hates West games and the West hates East games... or that's how it's usually seen. So, why don't we just all get along now...? 

 

Let ACE do what ever they want for the stretch goals, I think the Asian area should be given a chance. It's like when Vindictus came out and it was region locked to North America, Nexon shot themselves in the foot by restricting their market as I barely see it mentioned any more. 

Bro im saying its too early to go east yet when they hardly have a foothold in the west.


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Bro im saying its too early to go east yet when they hardly have a foothold in the west.

 

I just realised I posted my comment in the wrong thread... it was meant for the "other" thread talking about the Asian servers...  :unsure:

 

Merge the threads maybe?

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That's custard exactly what I am saying. There is no base for it in the west right now cuz there is no product! You still aren't getting it. Blade and Soul supports structured PvP.... not any open world full loot.

 

Right now Albion is gaining some head way... but this genre is very new and the Asian markets are not big on new.

Asian markets aren't big on new?  Explain to me all these new action combat mmorpgs being cranked out then? 

 

Go ahead and tell me all these full loot completely open world pvp mmorpgs that any region is big on right now....


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Asian markets aren't big on new?  Explain to me all these new action combat mmorpgs being cranked out then? 

 

Go ahead and tell me all these full loot completely open world pvp mmorpgs that any region is big on right now....

its not big because they are just custard starting up. Are you completely dead in the brain? Name the 5 last western MMOs that were pretty good success stories released that maintained their original concepts? I can think of the latest being WoW but nothing after that.


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Don't be a custard gonzo.- Abraham Lincoln

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its not big because they are just custard starting up. Are you completely dead in the brain? Name the 5 last western MMOs that were pretty good success stories released that maintained their original concepts? I can think of the latest being WoW but nothing after that.

What does this have to do with whether it's practical to localize or market this game to asia? 

 

Asia has proven to have a very competitive pvp scene across many genres... based on the success of certain mmorpgs over there, compared to what is successful in the west, you can tell that on average an asian mmorpg will have more systems in place for world pvp... whereas the western ones are pretty much just giving WoW offerings and sometimes not even world pvp. 


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Are you completely dead in the brain? 

 

Mate you shouldn't say that to someone because they don't see you're perspective... be careful with what you say...

 

And what happened to this? 

 

Done talking with you. I have seen your past posts.... you are stubborn to a fault.

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Mate you shouldn't say that to someone because they don't see you're perspective... be careful with what you say...

 

And what happened to this? 

 

He made me angry.... and I have been talking to this guy for 2 and half hours.... He is blind to statistics and choses others that try to support his argument however are not even based off of MMOS.... and when he talks about MMOs they are just his opinion when actually the game mechanics counter his opinion.

 

I already told you... im not afraid of offending anyone.


PvE is like water to my whiskey. Don't water down my whiskey.- Ronald Reagan

 

Don't be a custard gonzo.- Abraham Lincoln

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